How to invest in share markets?
Monday, September 22, 2008
Investors were shocked by the movements of stock markets in the last week. BSE Sensex moved from the 12,600 levels to 14,100 in just 2 days. Brave hearts who bought at Thursday morning earned 20% returns in just 2 days. That’s way stock markets work. It is almost impossible to time the markets exactly. You always need to take some risk in stock markets. So plan your investments, according to your risk profile. It is waste of time to look for bottom.
Easy to quote but difficult to implement: “Buy when others are selling and sell when others are buying”.
Believe in your convictions. I recommended and bought metal stocks for long term at throw away prices in the last week. Why? I believe in the long term story of India and China. Is it possible for these countries to grow without consuming the metals? I have not expected this kind of quick recovery in Sesa Goa and other metal stocks. I bought the company as it is trading at a forward P/E of 3 for FY2010 earnings. So it will at least give 150% returns in 2-3 years.
5 simple tips for stock market investors:
1. Investment is very easy if you approach stock markets with an open mind. Don’t clutter your mind with numbers like support, resistance and volumes etc. Those are meant for traders. We are investors then why should we waste time in thinking about them.
2. Invest in good companies with sound business prospects at reasonable valuations and give management sufficient time. Treat every short term fall as an investment opportunity. Sincerely believe in fundamentals.
3. Read every good article on businesses and companies. Listen to every expert. Analyse them in your own way then invest in good stocks. Don’t follow any one blindly. I daily spend 6-8 hours in reading and 1-2 hours in listening about stocks and companies. I am passionate about stocks and companies. So I enjoy every moment of reading.
4. Never follow herds and broker tips. Buy good companies when no one is talking about them and sell the scrip when all are buying it. Quarterly results and balance sheets will help you in picking good companies. I bought metal stocks, Bartronics and Tanla Solutions in the last week in spite of steep fall as I believe in their fundamentals and growth prospects.
5. Allocate 25% of money to buy emerging stocks and contra stocks. Those who bought sugar stocks? (Select companies) in 2007 got more than 100% returns in just 10 months. Emerging stocks will take 3-5 years but sometimes give more than 500% returns.
Note: I don’t recommend investments in penny stocks. Still I bought IKF technologies in significant amount at Rs 6. I did this as an experiment. I will put my money in the company for 6-7 years. I will see whether my experiment will succeed or not. I buy this stock as I am enthused by the plans of the young management of IKF Technologies. Will these young guys make IKF another Indiabulls? Will they succeed in implementing their business ideas?
Management plans of IKF Technologies:
FY2008 sales: Rs 29 crore.
Target sales for FY2016: Rs 3,000 crore.
Sectors: Bio Diesels, Wind and Solar Energy, VOIP and BPO services.
How to invest in stock markets?
Stock market investments= Economics + Mathematics/Statistics + Psychology.
These 3 disciplines will play important role in the stock market movements. We need to keep an eye on all the three aspects.
1. Economics: You need to work hard to learn about companies and their business growth prospects. You need to track your companies regularly to know about latest good/bad news, quarterly results, organic/inorganic growth prospects and sector trends etc. You should never forget about fundamentals.
Examples:
A. Ranbaxy: It is a very good company but FDA allegations are stunning and unbelievable and will have severe consequences. They can change the company future in a dramatic way (negatively).
B. RNRL: It rose to 250 without any significant news but now it is not moving much despite trend setting news. Its future over short term will depend on KG Basin court case but it is a must buy stock for long term investors who can hold it for 3-4 years. Anil Ambani has big plans for this company to make it a manufacturing giant. He is planning to invest more than Rs 30,000 crore in this company which may propel this stock to 500 levels within 3-4 years. So I bought RNRL for long term at around Rs 75. If it loses case in the court, stock may fall to below 40 levels in short term; It Anil wins the case, stock may move to above 150 levels. That’s why I don’t care about stock movement over short term. I believe in the long term story of RNRL. That’s the way one should invest in stock markets.
Advice to investors:
A. Decide yourself whether you are a trader or investor or both. I am an investor. I will never do trading but invest for short term. See the difference.
Ex. I first bought Gujarat NRE Coke at 82 in small quantities and bought in moderate quantities at 72. I used my money for these investments as I thought that this stock is a good buy for long term at these prices but it is a risky one for short term. At that time, I am sitting on huge cash from investment offers (I received good investments from 1 NRI and 2 north Indian investors just 4 days back). Suddenly, stock fell to 53 which is a steal. Here is a stock with bonus news, rights offer, good promoters and good quarterly results. Stock was trading at unreasonable valuations. Then I deployed my investment offers money. Why? I need to give just 40% returns in 6 months. Stock needs to reach just 75 to get that money in 6 months. As per fundamentals, I thought that it will easily reach that level by the time of bonus date (1 month). I don’t believe in the technical details like moving averages, resistances and supports etc. I believe in fundamentals and psychology of investors only.
If my company has good fundamentals and my entry price is reasonable, I don’t care about its short term movements.
B. Plan your investments for short, medium and long term. Allocate money accordingly.
C. “Derivatives are weapons of financial mass destruction” – Warren Buffett. Never look at them as investment vehicles. Derivatives are responsible for most of the stock market suicides. Derivatives are invented by the brokers for the benefit of brokers.
2. Statistics: Go through the balance sheet and spend some time to get a complete idea on the company top and bottom lines. Keep an eye on OPM, debt, ROCE and expenses etc. Compare the company with peers in the same sector. Keep an eye on the stock moment over the last 1 year. Finally arrive at a reasonable price.
3. Psychology: This is the most crucial stage. Never chase hot stocks and broker tips. It is very easy to say that buy when others are selling and sell when others are buying. It is very difficult to implement this strategy. Herd mentality is responsible for most of the losses. This is the reason why good stocks are now trading way below their fundamentals still no one is accumulating them. They will buy them once Sensex crosses 16,000. Harshad Mehta scam, IT bust, Ketan Parekh scam and 2008 collapse etc will occur mainly due to these innocent investors.
EX. Take GMR Infra and Bartronics. Both are growing on steroids. Both are sitting on huge orders if you compare their current turnover with orders of their respective companies. GMR Infra is a big company and is trading at a P/E of 100 while Bartronics is a small niche company and is trading at a P/E of 10. I invested in Bartronics while many of my readers are invested in GMR Infra. I am expecting 100% returns from my company (Bartronics needs to touch 300) in 15 months. Is it bad? I will buy more without hesitation on every fall. Single most reason for my decision for not investing in GMR Infra is herds along with high valuations. I may exit Bartronics if all are talking about it.
About Moserbaer: Sometimes unexpected things happen. I invested in Moserbaer at 92 as a long term investment but it gave 35% returns in 1 month. I don’t know why this stock is rising over short term. That’s the way stocks move.
Final note: Learn from failures. Be patient. Work hard on research. There are no shortcuts for success in stock markets. Read and analyse the data. Be responsible for your investment decisions. Enjoy every moment in stock markets. I cannot live without these unpredictable markets. I like the challenges posed by stock markets that’s why I am in love with stocks and companies. Are you in love with stocks? Never neglect your lover.
Two things that will ruin your investments: Fear and Greed. Please try to overcome them. Simple to say but difficult to master.
Don't think me as an expert. Treat me as a friend who is sharing his little knowledge with fellow investors.
One investor asked one simple question: Whom will you follow? Is it Rakesh Jhunjhunwala or Ramesh Damani?
My answer: I will never follow someone but I always try to learn new things from every legend. But no one will ever influence my investment decision. I always invest according to my investment principles. Commonsense and open mind are my biggest assets.
About my investment offer:
Some investors are asking me about the possibility of getting 100% returns. This is a valid question.
My answer: If you have Rs 5-10 crore, it is very risky to get those returns on consistent basis on such a huge amount as your investment ideas may not be sufficient to match your liquidity. But one can easily get 120-150% returns on investments of Rs 80 lakhs – 1 crore. But you need to work very hard to spot investment opportunities. Suppose I missed many investment opportunities in the last week as my liquidity didn’t match investment ideas. That’s the way of life!
Conclusion: Some investors are putting their hard earned money at me (an unknown person) by showing trust on me and believing in my abilities. Do I need more stimulation to work hard and match their expectations?
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12 comments:
Sesa Goa: Appreciate your point of PE 3x FY 10. It is posted at 3:13 pm today. The stock price is gone up today also. You might have made 23% in last two sessions. Congratulation!!
We would like to read you blog postings/send e-mails right after you buy/sell, interested people will follow you. And, certainly NOT after 23% raise of its price.
It is almost impractical to publish each of my investment decisions. I gave Sesa Goa example to indicate the importance of valuations. If you can able to spend 3-4 hours on research, One can find many such stocks.
Iam a long term investor,so can you pls recommend some stocks that can give extraordinary returns in the next 5-10yrs,recommend some stocks from MIDCAP...plssss
Hi Krishna
Its a great blog!!!
I wanted to know which broker you use to trade in scrips like Infotrek Syscom, SPEL Semiconductor etc as Reliance Money does not allow trades in these.
Thanks
Amit
I use ICICIDirect to buy stocks like Infotrek Syscom and SPEL Semiconductor. Trading charges are very high. That is the minus point.
Some good MID-CAP picks from my side too with reasonable valuation to prospects: Buying to be done in accumulation mode & not in bulk quantity. Buy in Phase wise approach on larger dips:
1) IDFC (Range Rs.70-85)
2) Pantaloon Retail (Below Rs.290)
3) Bartronics (Range Rs.120-150)
4) Siemens (Range 430-480)
5) Suzlon (Below Rs.200)
6) Guj NRE (Below Rs.65)
8) Sesa Goa (Below Rs.105-125)
9) Videocon (Below Rs.250)
10) Rolta (Below Rs.200)
11) HDIL (Below Rs.225)
12) Financial tech (Below Rs.1400)
13) R.Power (Range Rs.120-145)
14) J.P.Asso (Below Rs.125)
My preferables around CMP - J.P.ASSO, FT, Videocon, Suzlon, IDFC & Pantaloon retail.
Bulls, you are always the best commentator on my blog. I like your "range accumulation strategy" which is a very good one in bear markets. RNRL and Videocon are my dark horses but I am betting big on RNRL. Thank you for your wonderful advice.
Dear Krishna,
I appreciate your writing. Your suggestions and views are valuable for long term investors. I like your contrarian approach. Your ability to take risk is remarkable.
You said in your blog of 22nd Sep that IKF technologies is a penny stock. It is difficult to agree with this. For
(1) IKF technologies is not a loss making company. Its EPS is 0.04.
(2) CMP is not less than face value. Its face value is 1.
(3) Company has paid a dividend in 2007.
-Kishore Wankhade
Hi Krishna,
I am a regular reader of your blog. I felt it is really very informative and helpful. I started investing in stocks only before six months. The major factors that attracted me to your blog were;
1. Some posts that discusses your views about investing which really matched my thoughts.
2. Your way of detailing on why you recommend a particular stock. Many times it helps to get a broader idea of the areas that we need to keep in mind when we analyze stocks .... especially for a newbie like me.
I really believe that no traders (especially day traders) will make money ever as a disciplined systematic investor do. I made very negligible investments in some scrips when I started to keep an eye of some scrips that I attracted to. Let me honestly tell you that I haven't done a lot of research before my first day of investing. But nowadays I am doing that, especially sector wise to build my portfolio. I am happy to tell that I spotted "Rohit ferro tech" before you write about that stock. I saw your comments about that stock in very few days after that. Then I felt a bit more confidence about my self-research efforts :).
I have one question.. Why Bharati Shipyard very drastically lost its value in last 2-3 months? I could not find any reason for happening such a loss other than market sentiment in this bearish days. Could you please share your ideas?
Frankly, I can't say exactly that IKF is a penny stock. But popular perception among investors is like that. Kishore, if you say that it is a good one, I am the happiest investor.
Bharti Shipyard is a good stock with huge order book. But shipping sector is facing pressures due to recession. Baltic Index is down by more than 50%. Sector has bright future but not in these troubled periods.
Hi Doctor
thanks for your service to Investing company. I was benefited with my interactions with you and enjoy this. I have one question. What is your opinon on Zero Coupon on Tata investment corporation. Now that current stock price is about Rs.350, would you still advise to go for it? Your advice is appreciated.
thanks
Venu
hello Dr krishna
my name is sunand kapila and i m 22 years old ,i hav completed my studies and now i m free before my classes for mba starts in month of august.i m also in idea of investing stocks after reading about them.actually in this free tim i m managing my fathers stocks which he bought when sensex was 21000 and after dip he left them for nearly 1 and a half year.he has stocks lik
GMR INFRA@162
RNRL -200 @144
POWER TRADING CORP-250@ 166
FSL(FIRSTSOURCE SOLUTION LTD)-100@82
RELINCE POW_25 @276
RPL -200@182
EXIDE-100@82
AND ALL stocks are till now trading at loss plese guide how can i revive money lost in these and which are to be kept for long term so it could giv us benifits.and last but not the least i liked and learned lot from your blog
Regards
sunand kapila
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