Why sector is crucial for stock market investments?

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Investors tend to underestimate the importance of sector before investing in a stock. They generally concentrate on stocks but forget about the importance of sector. Investors in IT and sugar stocks missed to capitalise on the glorious bull run in 2007. Except in rare instances, even good stocks in bad sectors will underperform while bad stocks in momentum sectors generally outperform due to positive sentiment. Just see how even good commodity stocks are now falling to unreasonable levels. In USA, many waste management stocks are now trading near 1-year highs.

Investors in power sector got bumper returns in the December, 2007 rally. Textiles are the hot stocks in early 90’s, while IT stocks are the hot ones in late 90’s. Metal stocks are star players in 2007 while they are the worst performers in 2008. When sentiment turns to negative in a sector, even strong fundamentals will not save good companies from free fall.

Why sector is so important?


1. 2001: Nifty gave -16% returns while top sector, Auto, gave 29% returns. Hero Honda was a star in those days.

2. 2002: Nifty gave just 4% returns while top sector, Energy, gave 74% returns and Metals and Banks gave 50% returns.

3. 2003: Nifty gave 74% returns while top sector, Metals, gave 238% returns. Real Estate and Capital goods gave 170% returns.

4. 2004: Nifty gave just 9% returns but top sector, Real Estate, gave 144% returns. Telecom gave 63% returns.

5. 2005: Nifty gave 36% returns while top sector, Real Estate, gave 290% returns. Capital goods stocks gave 110% returns.

6. 2006: Nifty gave 40% returns but top sector, Real Estate, gave 200% returns. Metals and Telecom gave 70% returns. Unitech and Bharti Airtel investors may not forget those days.

7. 2007: Nifty gave 55% returns while top sector, Metals, gave 190% returns. Capital goods and energy stocks gave 110% returns.

8. 2008: Nifty gave big negative returns but investors in FMCG and sugar stocks escaped from big losses.

Statistical source: Business Line.

I am requesting readers to share their views and data on the importance of sector. I am eager to see which sector will outperform in 2009. Will alternative energy finally take lime light? Will commodities bounce back? Will defensive sectors like Pharma and FMCG continue to rule?

My GDP estimate: Indian GDP growth will fall to 6% in this financial year from 9% in the last year.

About valuations: Analysts are talking about historically low valuations of BSE Sensex and NSE Nifty but such assumptions will not work in the current market. When BSE Sensex was trading at P/E of 14, it was trading at a forward P/E of 10-12. There was an investment opportunity at that time. Now Sensex is trading at an attractive P/E of 10-11 but it is now trading at a forward P/E of 14-15. There lies the problem. Future growth is very important in stock markets. Very few companies will positively surprise us the next quarter results. Fall in consumption will offset the fall in commodity prices and interest rates.

Global recession news: Developed countries are gradually slipping into deep recession and these economies will take years to recover. Reviving economy is not going to be as easy as Obama said. It is no longer about “sub-prime crisis”. Crisis spread to main economy and families are now really feeling the heat. Job losses are aggravating the problem.

1. Citi Bank will cut another 52,000 jobs to reduce work force by 20%. The bank already cut 23,000 jobs in this year.

2. Europe: Continent is officially in recession after 15 years. All the European countries are showing negative growth.

3. Japan: Unexpected shock. Japan GDP growth shrank by 0.4% in Q3. World’s second largest economy went into recession for the first time since 2001. Japan’s public debt is 180% of GDP while USA public debt is 300% of GDP. When will these developed countries recover?

4. Hong Kong: Country is in technical recession which will see more negative growth by next quarter.

5. England: Recession in U.K is painful and prolonged – British Chambers of Commerce. 30 lakh people will become jobless by 2010. Britain economy will shrink by 1.7% in 2009. 18 lakh people are now unemployed in U.K.

6. USA: Retail sales recorded biggest monthly decline since 1992. Auto sales fell by 32% in October to the lowest level since January 1991.

ATF price cuts:

Even though ATF price cut is good news for Airlines industry, it will not change the industry’s business prospects. Airlines problems are mainly due to rapid slowdown in economy and the consumption power of people but ATF price is a minor problem. Can you invest in IT stocks due to dollar appreciation? Can you put your money in textile stocks due to rupee depreciation? Can you invest in Oil marketing companies due to short term fall in crude oil prices? Can you put your hard earned money in Real estate stocks due to RBI rate cuts? Can you invest in Aviation stocks due to ATF price cuts? Give importance to business fundamentals but not to minor happy news. These little things are meant for traders.

About IT stocks:

This sector is seeing dramatic collapse in the last 10 days. Current decline in IT spending is much deeper than estimated. IT research firm IDC revised world IT spending growth estimates to 2.6% from 5.9%. India will be severely impacted by this drastic slowdown in IT spending. Intense competition for new orders among companies will dent their profit margins. Investors should stay away from this sector until January. Intel, Cisco, Apple, AMD, Google and Nokia shares are plummeted in NASDAQ. IT industry lost 7,00,000 jobs in 2001 and it will lose 2,00,000 jobs in 2008 and more in 2009.

Read this article to know about the historical collapse in IT spending. I failed to understand that why Infosys and NASSCOM bosses are issuing careless statements about IT spending.

About Real Estate stocks:

Sector is in complete mess. Real Estate companies failed to understand the seriousness of the problem. DLF and Unitech cut 1,000 jobs and put some projects on hold. DLF cut price for square feet from 3,500 to 2,775 at its proposed maiden gated project in Bangalore. Is it enough? Companies asked banks for restructuring of loans. They paid unreasonable money to acquire land banks and are now asking banks for restructuring of loans. Why don’t they build homes at affordable rates and continue their growth prospects? Government should not bailout these companies. German based Hypo real estate announced $4 billion loss in Q3 results. We will hear such shocks from real estate companies in the next 2 quarters. There is so much opportunity for middle class houses in India. Who will spot and grab it without becoming greedy?

Investment advice:

Investors should stay away from stocks of the companies which depend on developed economies for their business growth. Investors should not believe in the statements of Company CEOs. Believe in your intuition and research. I don’t believe in the domestic consumption theory. Indian consumption will fall drastically in the coming months due to job losses. Indians so far felt only 30% of the crisis effects. Real picture will unfold in the coming days. Invest in companies which depend on Government spending, necessary consumption like Pharma and companies which can continue their growth prospects. Many people are concentrating only on IT job losses by forgetting the lakhs of job losses in unorganised sectors like Textiles and Jewellery etc.

Investment strategy:

Short-medium term investors should monitor situation on day to day basis. But long term investors with 2-3 year perspective should accumulate on every fall. Accumulate only good stocks with strong growth prospects and sound business models. But current market is ideal for traders and short term investors. Note down stocks which are actively participating in bear market rallies. Closely monitor them to make 20-30% profits on every rally. Is it not enough?

How I use online trading: I have online trading accounts with ICICIdirect, Reliance Money and Religare.

1. ICICIdirect:

This is for pure long term investments in emerging companies. I will not sell these stocks except in rare circumstances. These companies will not give you any significant returns in the next 1-2 years but even 1-2 successful investments will give outstanding returns over long term. Among these emerging companies, some companies (MIC Electronics and Time Technoplast etc) disappointed me in the recent quarterly results while some companies announced encouraging results like Compact Disc, XL Telecom, Tanla and IKF etc. But I will not sell even bad performers but reduce future investments in those stocks. These are buy and forget type of investments.

2. Reliance Money:

I will use this for medium to long term investments. I am now using accumulation strategy for these investments. Due this strategy, I missed big profits in short time in Educomp, Core Projects and Kalindee Rail Nirman etc while I escaped from big losses in Balasore Alloys and Visa Steel etc due to this accumulation strategy. I will continue to accumulate on every fall. I will sell these stocks if I find something is seriously wrong with the company. I treat every fall in the stock price of a good company as an investment opportunity but not as a selling sign. In these days, things are changing on a daily basis. So you need to monitor your investments and exit bad stocks. Buy and forget is not good in these unpredictable times. Stock selection will depend on your profile.

3. Religare:

I use this for ultra short term opportunities. I bought and sold Larsen and Toubro, JP Associates and Punj Lloyd etc at least 5 times in the last 3 months. But I have not sold single share of Larsen and Toubro in the Reliance Money account. That is the difference. Enter into the stock if you spot an opportunity and exit with reasonable profits. Greed is very dangerous. If you are an experienced investor, you should not miss these opportunities.

Suggestion: I am saying above things to suggest that clarity is most important in any investment especially in stock markets. One should invest according to their age, risk profile, needs, expectations and income etc. HUL is a good stock for conservative investors while it is bad scrip for young long term investors. Gujarat NRE Coke, Tata Steel and Hindustan Zinc are bad stocks for short to medium term investors due to commodity slowdown but they are must buys for contra long term investors. XL Telecom, Educomp, Compact Disc, Tanla, ICSA and Bartronics are not good scrips for short to medium term portfolios but educated long term investors should accumulate them.

Investors should analyse their needs and risk profiles and made investments in those stocks that suit their requirements. I am strictly against investments in derivatives especially in futures. Retail investors should stay away from investments in futures and other speculative activities. This is my sincere advice.

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19 comments:

Chethan November 18, 2008 2:24 AM  

Dr:Krisha,

What is your take on GUJ NRE Coke. Does your opinion on it being a outperformer still hold good?

Chethan November 18, 2008 2:25 AM  

Got the answer from your blog itself...hadnt read the last part... :)

Dr. Krishna November 18, 2008 2:52 AM  

Stocks like Gujarat NRE Coke and other metal stocks will underperform. But wonderful accumulation for contra investors who can wait for 12-15 months. Short term investors should not look at stocks like these.

Amar Deep November 18, 2008 10:54 AM  

Dear Sir,

I am very satsified after reading this article becasue i am dealing almost in same way with 3 demat accounts (reliance, icici and ventura) icici charges 075%, reliance is card system and ventura is charging 0.20% on delivery so all short term on ventura only......

i am feeling little worried for my holdings in balasore alloy, rohit ferro tech and sesa goa.... but i have alredy stopped accumulating becasue one single good news about metal or commodity will make me way back to accumulate metal stocks, but guj nre coke excellent price so started in small lots....

i am making good money in IDFC this stock in particapiting in rallies but avoid ifci.....

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and vision with us.

Amar Deep November 18, 2008 10:57 AM  

Suzlon is entring Solar energy and surana industries is already engaged into solar energy and further expanding its strength.... can you please advice some waste management companies (jindal saw--- good expansion plans)

Dr. Krishna November 18, 2008 12:28 PM  

Jindal Saw has very big plans and already got some orders. Infotrek Syscom is a pure play but announced poor results in the September quarter. I am accumulating both in small quantities.

I will buy Suzlon after getting clear idea about their plans and how they deal with debt.

Amar Deep November 18, 2008 12:46 PM  

Dear Krishna,

What's your opnion about Future capital, reliance power, sintex, mundra port, titagarh wagon and welspun guj and cairn india for long term.....

kindly advice because all the companies are fundamentaly strong.

Amar

Amar Deep November 18, 2008 1:27 PM  

just read this article

http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/market-outlook/see-portfolio-investors-back-to-india18-24-months-idfc/366670

Band November 18, 2008 3:47 PM  

I have been a keen follower of your blog and really liked the way you evaluate your stocks -- based on results and potential, debt, P/E ratio etc; rather than resistances and supports.

But how do you take a call on stocks with FII holding - in the current scenario, is it a positive or negative?

For ex: some of your stock picks have very high FII holding.. Kalindee, Moser baer & Opto - 26%;
Tanla, Geodesic & Time technoplast - 30 to 40%

Isnt there a risk of FII selling driving the stock prices lower in Nov-Dec? What is your view on that?

Dr. Krishna November 18, 2008 4:28 PM  

Band raised very important question on FII holding. That's why I am following accumulation in small quantity strategy for serious long term investors. Even though, they are good stocks, downside is high due to FII holdings. It is very difficult to predict exact price for such stocks. Conservative investors should stay away from these stocks.

I sdo not have enough knowledge to comment on Aegis Logistics.

BULLS November 18, 2008 4:42 PM  

Hello Mr Krishna,

In this blog post, u've called for investor's suggestion/views on the subject - SECTOR. And, i for one, have some definite view of myself regarding way of dealing various different SECTORS.

Firstly, to start with, a long-term portfolio needs to be well-diversified in terms of Sector Allocation. Y is such Sector diversification needed in LONG-TERM investment ?? Sector wise Diversification is needed in long-term investment as the investor is willing to wait & hold the portfolio for a longer-duration of time or until his pre-set targets are achieved. This long-term investment can span across few years or even more. During such times, in this constantly changing environment, various sector of the economy come into bullish TREND & diminish from the sight time-n-again. The trend keeps changing among various sectors depending upon various internal and/or external conditions elated to the economy in general.

Like, for example, currently in the bearish situation, FMCG & Pharma has shown better reselience due to their operation in the space of inevitable consumption of goods/services. Even in bearish times, people wont stop consuming Medicines. Or People wont stop bathing with soaps. At the most, they may downgrade using expensive soaps with less expensive ones. But, they wont stop absolutely using it.

Similarly, before this bull run, we saw how liquidity made a rush towards Commodity stocks, including Metal stocks. Now, that bullishness has disappeared for the time being, due to concerns of slowdown in world economy. So, meaning to say... Commodity trend came & went by. It may come back once global economy stabilizes & shows some recovery over next few years.

Similarly, every portfolio should have 10-20% investment in DEFENSIVE sectors to over-come the over-aggressiveness of remaining sectors. This would provide cushion of safety when the tide turns in opposite direction, as we witnessing right now - bear phase.

No investment is a sure thing. Any company, howsoever strong in any & every way it may be, can have serious problems that are hidden from investors. Even the most financially sound company with the best management could be struck by an uncontrollable disaster or a major change in the marketplace, such as a new competitor or a change in technology. The same thing applies to SECTOR specifics also & most of the are also governed by the LAW OF SEASONALITY. The trend keeps changing.

-BULLS

My Yahoo Chat & mail id:
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Amar Deep November 19, 2008 11:36 AM  

wow kalindee rail jumped 15 % today..... L & T is increasing stake in kalindee... this is surely safe company and must buy on dips....

couldntnameit November 19, 2008 1:40 PM  

great write up krishna! You seem to know what you're talking. I finally have company on the domestic consumption story :-)

Band November 19, 2008 2:01 PM  

Dr.Krishna,

your comment on Guj NRE is understood - patiently watching it go lowr each day; waiting to pick it up.

But what about Navin fluorine? After such good results, debt okay, good dividend -- why is it making new lows every day? Is there any particular reason you see for the downside or is it still good for LT investment?

What is more worrying is Reliance capital.. I have been looking at it for the past one week -- went down each day, from 700 to 490 today.. Are you still bullish on it? Or will loan deliquencies hurt it going forward?

Dr. Krishna November 19, 2008 8:28 PM  

Thanks to couldntnameit for his comment.

I give more details on why Domestic consumption theory is complete non sense. Are they thinking that people will continue to splurge at multiplexes and restaurents even after losing a job or cut in salary?

At least 30-40% of People take care and cut down their unnecessary expenses even though they have safe income and jobs. That is the mentality of people in any country when economic sentiment is bad. But people will continue to buy soaps and medicine but that is necessary spending.

Malls, Multiplexes, Auto, Aviation, Hotels and Real Estate etc will continue to feel the heat for another 1 year. But spending by Government and Railways will continue. There lies investment opportunities.

I don't know why these analysts on TV will say such wrong things on domestic consumption. Only happy news is India will grow at 6% growth rate when most of the countries are in recession.

I am positive on Navin Flourine and will buy more on every fall without hesitation. How can I miss such a stock for accumulation which is now trading at a forward P/E of 1.5? Long term investors should give much importance to short term stock movements when sentiment is so bad.

Suppose if Sensex fell to below 7,000, your stocks will make new lows before making recovery. Do you think that your decisions are bad? If you are such a kind of person, it is better to stay away from stock markets.

About L&T: I am finally saying these words after seeing comment about L&T. I will not sell L&T for 5 years. If market will make new low, L&T will also fall. That means, it is a bad stock? Absolutely not. Investors are still not understanding about importance of long term investments in a good company. They are not seeing bigger picture about great companies.

About Reliance Capital, short term outlook is bad but has excellent intrinsic value. It is difficult to take a call.

World stock markets may make new lows due to herd mentality especially in December-January months. Investors who need money in the next 6 months should not invest in stocks.

But current markets are ideally suited for young employees who have safe monthly income. Stock markets will change their lives in the next 5 year if they can able to bear pain for 1 year.

Hiren November 21, 2008 9:53 AM  

Dr.Krishna..cheers to u mate..u providing grt info..Sectors wise i dont knw which sector is going to be the flavour of the season but i would prefer oil and gas sector and bio fuel sector ( i hope their is one such sector ) :P ..

And Dr krishna u have stopped writting ur day to day headlines pls do continue with it cz im seeing serious troubles with markets.I do wish to knw more abt marketss at this time..

And i do like ur The Headlines that u give to your subjects..Its jst makes me laugh ( Evn i dont trust the FM cz when he says evrything is fine something is 101%seriously wrong )

Dr. Krishna November 21, 2008 3:08 PM  

Thank you Hiren for your compliment. I failed to update regularly in the last week as I decided to take rest for 1 week from stock markets as I worked very hard for the last 50 days.

I will continue with my posts from Monday onwards. Thank you for cooperation.

Anonymous November 21, 2008 4:33 PM  

Dear Dr. Krishna,

Your column is a good read...great work.

One of the views is that this market may be less about sectors, but more about company specific fundamentals.

Companies with great cash position, sound businesses and good people across sectors are bound to benefit. Good cash position will allow companies to invest in right assets at this point of time at remarkably cheap valuations.

Hence, it will be great if we can identify companies with good cash position in each sector. For ex. in Real Estate Anant Raj Industries has great cash position and significant experience. Some of the other companies with great cash situation are Reliance industries, Bharti, Tanla, Opto Circuits, TCS

Also, the alternative energy sector which is a favourite with many people may not be too attractive with low oil price levels which might remain till we tide over the recession

armourofgod January 19, 2009 11:05 AM  

Hi, Dr. Krishna

Thank you for giving us information.I had also given my comment on your article " What is bottom level for BSE Sensex ? "

I can only say one sector which i can bet in bad times is Banking sector. According to me, it is a safer sector than any other sector.Banking is back bone of any countries for there economies.

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